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Speeding..; Fined..
Topic Started: Oct 9 2010, 03:00 PM (412 Views)
blueblood
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Pooley
Oct 9 2010, 07:18 PM
blueblood
Oct 9 2010, 06:09 PM
Pooley
Oct 9 2010, 06:58 PM

someone speeds and hits someone and kills them then they have effectivley murdered that person.

If speeding is fine then it wouldnt be against the law.

Thats like saying shoplifting is ok if it is a company whio are making big profits because you have assessed the situation and feel it is ok...it is not upto you to make the laws or pick and chose which ones you agree with.

Would you think speeding was ok if someone speeding killed your wife/parents/other loved ones? Is it ok to drive and drive late at night because you have assessed the situation and there are ony a few vehicles around so it is less likley you will be involved in an accident?

There are a number of factors which come into someone being killed.

One of the main factors ofcourse is the speed of the impact the person recieves from the collision.

But its more likely to be the pedestrian or driver doing something dangerous or stupid. I'm of the opinion that breaking the speed limit isn't dangerous provided it is done in the right circumstances. However, the term 'speeding' is dangerous because the person is driving to fast for the conditions of the road and area as 'speeding' gives you less time to react to hazards.

Out of interest have you ever applied to the police? :fishing:

I havent - its something I would think about though. **thumbup

My mates brother got offered a job as a police officer now two years ago and his start date was put back until september next year so he told them to sod it.

There making it harder and applicants must now serve as an unpaid special before getting accepted.

Personally I can see how some aspects of it would be rewarding but I wouldn't want to work shifts or weekends and the pay isn't that great for what the job is.
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blueblood
Oct 9 2010, 06:23 PM
Pooley
Oct 9 2010, 07:18 PM
blueblood
Oct 9 2010, 06:09 PM
Pooley
Oct 9 2010, 06:58 PM

someone speeds and hits someone and kills them then they have effectivley murdered that person.

If speeding is fine then it wouldnt be against the law.

Thats like saying shoplifting is ok if it is a company whio are making big profits because you have assessed the situation and feel it is ok...it is not upto you to make the laws or pick and chose which ones you agree with.

Would you think speeding was ok if someone speeding killed your wife/parents/other loved ones? Is it ok to drive and drive late at night because you have assessed the situation and there are ony a few vehicles around so it is less likley you will be involved in an accident?

There are a number of factors which come into someone being killed.

One of the main factors ofcourse is the speed of the impact the person recieves from the collision.

But its more likely to be the pedestrian or driver doing something dangerous or stupid. I'm of the opinion that breaking the speed limit isn't dangerous provided it is done in the right circumstances. However, the term 'speeding' is dangerous because the person is driving to fast for the conditions of the road and area as 'speeding' gives you less time to react to hazards.

Out of interest have you ever applied to the police? :fishing:

I havent - its something I would think about though. **thumbup

My mates brother got offered a job as a police officer now two years ago and his start date was put back until september next year so he told them to sod it.

There making it harder and applicants must now serve as an unpaid special before getting accepted.

Personally I can see how some aspects of it would be rewarding but I wouldn't want to work shifts or weekends and the pay isn't that great for what the job is.

shifts and weekends dont really bother me...but yeah they are looking at getting new recruits from the unpaid pile...however you can volunteer anything from 4hrs up so its not like its hard to fit time in for the volunteer roles.
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blueblood
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Pooley
Oct 9 2010, 07:34 PM
blueblood
Oct 9 2010, 06:23 PM
Pooley
Oct 9 2010, 07:18 PM
blueblood
Oct 9 2010, 06:09 PM
Pooley
Oct 9 2010, 06:58 PM

someone speeds and hits someone and kills them then they have effectivley murdered that person.

If speeding is fine then it wouldnt be against the law.

Thats like saying shoplifting is ok if it is a company whio are making big profits because you have assessed the situation and feel it is ok...it is not upto you to make the laws or pick and chose which ones you agree with.

Would you think speeding was ok if someone speeding killed your wife/parents/other loved ones? Is it ok to drive and drive late at night because you have assessed the situation and there are ony a few vehicles around so it is less likley you will be involved in an accident?

There are a number of factors which come into someone being killed.

One of the main factors ofcourse is the speed of the impact the person recieves from the collision.

But its more likely to be the pedestrian or driver doing something dangerous or stupid. I'm of the opinion that breaking the speed limit isn't dangerous provided it is done in the right circumstances. However, the term 'speeding' is dangerous because the person is driving to fast for the conditions of the road and area as 'speeding' gives you less time to react to hazards.

Out of interest have you ever applied to the police? :fishing:

I havent - its something I would think about though. **thumbup

My mates brother got offered a job as a police officer now two years ago and his start date was put back until september next year so he told them to sod it.

There making it harder and applicants must now serve as an unpaid special before getting accepted.

Personally I can see how some aspects of it would be rewarding but I wouldn't want to work shifts or weekends and the pay isn't that great for what the job is.

shifts and weekends dont really bother me...but yeah they are looking at getting new recruits from the unpaid pile...however you can volunteer anything from 4hrs up so its not like its hard to fit time in for the volunteer roles.

What gets me.

Is obviously people are becoming PCSOs as a stepping stone to becoming a PC.

Which is basically a poorly paid copper who cant arrest people.

But quite often I've seen a Police officer, and a PCSO, walking the beat together. Now, they're both doing exactly the same job walking that beat making a public presence and one is on 10k a year more.
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bluenosekev
Oct 9 2010, 04:00 PM
Mate of mine got a speeding ticket the other day was on the A435 between the M42 roundabout and Maypole, Mobile camera got him, £60 fine and 3 points on his license! he was gutted..

Last time I got one was on the hagley rd in Edgbaston and the speed camera got me doing 48 in a 30 mile zone.. "no"

Speed camera's its just unlucky if you get caught. I mean nobody sticks to speed limits do they?

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was caught going 5mph over the speed limit when driving on the A45 back towards Brum on a Sunday night

£60 fine and 3 points < <

i hadn't see another car for about 10 minutes and was kinda lost. it was dark so could barely see anything

i was only on the A45 because the M6 northbound from Salford Circus was shut so i had no other choice but to head towards Solihull or Tamworth
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Oct 9 2010, 04:28 PM
ringo182
Oct 9 2010, 04:21 PM
most of the time i speed is when i'm simply following the car in front and don't realise how fast i am going.


you should be overtaking at the earliest opportunity :copno:

so your saying that in order to stop speeding i should drive even faster to overtake the car that i'm following?
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Oct 9 2010, 03:52 PM
bluenosekev
Oct 9 2010, 04:00 PM
Mate of mine got a speeding ticket the other day was on the A435 between the M5 roundabout and Maypole, Mobile camera got him, £60 fine and 3 points on his license! he was gutted..

Last time I got one was on the hagley rd in Edgbaston and the speed camera got me doing 48 in a 30 mile zone.. "no"

Speed camera's its just unlucky if you get caught. I mean nobody sticks to speed limits do they?

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Kro.

Assuming you mean the M42, and the stretch of the A435 between Beckett's Farm and the Maypole, they are always catching people along there. There is a very nice hidey hole alongside one of the bridges so people don't see them in time to slow down. :rolleyes:

Mo
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Jo was caught there too about 7 months ago

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Got done in Nottingham last year for doing 38 in a 30 - there's speed cameras round here everywhere, but that was the OB that caught me. £60 and 3 points.

Fair enough, I did it and got punished. BUT can someone explain to me how the 'justice' system is supposed to work?

For instance, if I was a famous footballer, golfer, 'celeb' then I would get a very exepensive crook...sorry, solicitor, who would then proceed to make up some naff excuse, so they can then get it dropped.

So two questions:

1 - would that happen to me and you, if we paid for one of these characters with our life savings?

2 - WHO pays for the costs when the defendant no doubt gets re-inburshed? ......think I already know the answer to that one - makes my blood boil! :banghead:
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Zulu Dwarf
Oct 10 2010, 10:49 PM
BluenoseMo
Oct 9 2010, 03:52 PM
bluenosekev
Oct 9 2010, 04:00 PM
Mate of mine got a speeding ticket the other day was on the A435 between the M5 roundabout and Maypole, Mobile camera got him, £60 fine and 3 points on his license! he was gutted..

Last time I got one was on the hagley rd in Edgbaston and the speed camera got me doing 48 in a 30 mile zone.. "no"

Speed camera's its just unlucky if you get caught. I mean nobody sticks to speed limits do they?

feed.back

Kro.

Assuming you mean the M42, and the stretch of the A435 between Beckett's Farm and the Maypole, they are always catching people along there. There is a very nice hidey hole alongside one of the bridges so people don't see them in time to slow down. :rolleyes:

Mo
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Jo was caught there too about 7 months ago

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That stretch of duel carriageway which runs from the M42 roundabout (past Beckets Farm as pointed out by bluenosemo) to the Maypole Island doesnt actually have any stationary Speed camera's (you know them yellow ones)..They must be mobile camera's hidden in the bushes or wherever..

How fast was Jo doing Dazz?, think its a 60 mile an hour limit if I'm correct..

Kro.
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Not been caught speeding which is quite surprising since I speed a fair bit, been pulled over once by a plain clothed copper for jumping a red light on an island, I still maintain it was just orange, but the copper wasn’t having it, just a slap on the wrist and a 'be more careful next time' though. Never had any points or fines B)
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Oct 9 2010, 03:18 PM
agree with you on that but motorists are easy targets. virtually everyone on the road speeds, i have been working twilights just lately, finishing at 2-00am and the ammount of cyclists i see riding with no lights is unbelieveable, i have seen police drive past them and ignore them. if a car had no lights he would be stopped. age old arguement speed cameras are there to make money not save lives. its been proven.

Absolutley spot on mate. The number of cyclists I see without lights & hi-viz jackets when I work evenings is astonishing.
Also fixed speed cameras only slow people down for approx 20 yards, as soon as they are past the markers they boot it again.
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